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๐ŸŽง ‘Addition by Subtraction’: TV’s Art of Restraint in Sound Editing

Emmy nominees Brian J. Armstrong, MPSE (‘Shogun’) and Tim Kissel, MPSE (‘3 Body Problem’; ‘Avatar: The Last Airbender’) chat with past nom Joel D. Catalan, CAS

Welcome to the latest episode of Art & Crafts, The Anklerโ€™s podcast series dedicated to bringing audiences behind the scenes to examine the careers and contributions of the talented artisans who create and craft the movies and TV series that we love. Subscribe on Apple Podcasts.

To create the world of Shogun, set in Japan at the turn of the 17th century, sound supervisor Brian J. Armstrong, MPSE, says he relied heavily on โ€œaddition by subtraction.โ€ From stripping the bird sounds out of the showโ€™s Osaka enclave (to give it a โ€œclaustrophobic feel,โ€ he says) to cutting all music during a powerful earthquake scene, Armstrongโ€™s editing choices were all about getting more story out of less noise.

Tim Kimmel, MPSE, describes a similar dialing back on Netflixโ€™s sci-fi epic 3 Body Problem, where much of the action takes place within a VR game. โ€œItโ€™s light years ahead of any games that you would have now, so we really played with all the fine detail and pushing it a little farther,โ€ he recalls. โ€œAnd they said, โ€˜You know what? No, no, thatโ€™s actually too high. It shouldnโ€™t be hyperreal. It should actually just be real.โ€

Kimmel and Armstrong, both Emmy-nominated for outstanding sound editing (Kimmel scored a second nod for Netflixโ€™s animated adventure Avatar: The Last Airbender), shared their career paths and creative processes with Joel D. Catalan, CAS (a past Emmy nominee for sound mixing on the NatGeo series Cosmos: A Spacetime Odyssey). Itโ€™s the last of four special podcasts The Ankler recorded Aug. 1 during our Art & Crafts Live event at the American Society of Cinematographers Clubhouse. (Previous episodes explored cinematography, production design and costume design).

Cast and crew were all aligned on Shogunโ€™s sonic restraint, Armstrong notes. Hiroyuki Sanada, who plays Toronaga and is also a producer on the series, went so far as to brandish his own samurai sword on a Zoom call to demonstrate just how quiet the weapon can be, unlike the โ€œshingyโ€ and โ€œclangyโ€ sounds of typical cinematic blades. Even in some scenes where Armstrongโ€™s instinct was to add voices โ€” like when a huge army is on the move โ€” the seriesโ€™ creators were adamant about pulling back.

โ€œTheyโ€™re soldiers. Theyโ€™re samurai. Theyโ€™re not chatting as theyโ€™re walking,โ€ Armstrong concedes. โ€œThereโ€™s no hot goss in the samurai world.โ€ ย 

Transcript here.


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